Wanted to put some distance between them, in time and space, just in case somebody had seen them together. CINDY: (interrupting) Well, I went over there cause at first I didnt recognize him. He intended to do the same with Cindy on June 13, 1983. Though he was doing so well in his new life, Roberts dark urges grew stronger by the day; he could and very often did hunt all of the Alaskan game that he liked, but each kill steadily grew less satisfying than the last. I think hes such an incredible filmmaker. I mean, man, what he did to me, he had to kill me. All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and theres no telling how much longer he wouldve lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of 83. As broad as that seems, its kind of the plan. So you go into the garage, what happens then, when you get into the garage? This site is not free, I pay more than $300 just to keep this. FLOTHE: How did you know that? Sure, no problem, Im like, fine, no problem. Hey, no problem, you know. FLOTHE: When you got into the car, and you were giving him a head job, is that when he pulled out the gun? He found an outlet for his feelings of sexual rejection and frustration through criminalityfirst via smaller displays of power like kleptomania, then graduating to arson, burning down a school bus garage in his hometown of Pocahontas, Iowa in 1960, a crime for which he served 20 months in prison. FLOTHE: Friday morning. Daily News reporter Sean Doogan contributed to this story. CINDY: Thats it. It was during this 30 month prison stint that he was diagnosed as bipolar with schizophrenic episodes, and wife number one filed for a divorce. This looks black but its actually blue. And he was very kind and giving as an actor, as well as John. In her case, becoming authentic on the job took 10-plus years. The trooper instinctively knew that the girl had been telling the whole truth, that Robert was his killer, and more women were going to die unless he was quickly stopped. Robert Hansen confessed to killing 17 women in the 1970s and early 80s and after the murder 30 years ago, led authorities to her body near a lake in the north of Anchorage. CINDY: I gave him the number at the Big Timber. "Good riddance to him.". Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. Have you heard anything about a sequel to Journey 2 The Mysterious Island? She also discussed her fun cameo in Machete Kills and her upcoming films, Gimme Shelter and The Kitchen Sink. It was smooth. CINDY: Yep. When will it be released? CINDY: Sunday. Despite his growing rap sheet, Hansen escaped notice when Anchorage women soon began to disappear. Its way down on the bottom. CINDY: OK, well I had got in the car to give the guy a blowjob. It was super fun and really quick. (inaudible) The horns that were up there, the big ol antler horns, theyre called. And, getting to that point, "it's so powerful," she says. Youve taken on some very interesting, challenging roles lately in different genres like this film and also Gimme Shelter. Hudgens: That was great. FRANK ROTHSCHILD (FR): Alright. FLOTHE: OK. CINDY: Yes, its real Hell yeah, Im bothered by it. CINDY: Um hmm. Did he only do a few takes or did he do as many as he felt he needed? This link contains non-graphic crime scene photos from Robert Hansen, it is mostly of the grave sites. It was smooth like Figure 20s handle, but the gun was shaped like Figure 21. CINDY: Bob and then Don. It was Don, and then OK, it was Don and then after we were at his place, and he was going to take me to the airport, he was saying about Bob. I wish we could say for sure that this was Roberts final victim, but its thought that there were probably more. It was funny though, cause before, when he was getting ready to take me to his cabin, he said that, um, there had been seven other girls before me. Hansens Den (Alaska State Troopers) https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/. Its very specific and unique, and its that type of film. Did he give you a sense of what he wanted and then get out of the way and let you follow your instincts as an actor? FLOTHE: When you drove up to the house did you see any other cars there at the time? Glenn Flothe, AST. Like a station wagon. Workers and drug dealers and dancers came and went, many with few ties to the state and no one to notice if they went missing. She had been engaging in sex work. After he was convicted of committing murder, Darla finally let go of her marriage; she promptly divorced her husband, then she and the kids moved back to Arkansas to be with family. Cause this motherfucker wasnt getting away with it. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Four door. Im not involved though. And I was just running. I guess Im superstitious, so I dont like talking about things until they happen, but there are a few things in the works. About four stairs to get into the house. He was messin with my neck and I was kinda trippin. CINDY: All right. Interesting stuff. Hudgens: Oh my gosh, Nic is the most professional actor Ive ever worked with and that I probably will ever work with. Way down on the floor. CINDY: Regular Just working boots. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. There was also a collection of newspaper articles about the killer and his missing victims, and a map with little X marks all over it which indicated where hed dumped his victims. "He's one of those kind of guys that you kind of hope every breath he takes in his life, there's some pain associated with it, because he caused such pain," Rothschild said. "In his mind there were good girls and bad girls.". Its important, too, for people to see that it only takes one person to have faith in you, to care about you, to make you feel changed. CINDY: Um, he had me chained around my neck for a time. ROBERT HANSEN (RH): Uh, you want me, Sir, to start when I first met this CINDY PAULSON the first time or, RH: or what? FLOTHE: Where did you go when you did it in the car? He had already tortured and raped her, and she was still handcuffed when she ran from his car to flag down passing traffic. As was Hansens wont, he wanted to feel things out. RH: Yes. I thought it was an amazing take on pop culture and where we are today and how the generation is so media-driven and see and be seen. It was just a really interesting take on college students. It just felt (inaudible) and he pulled the gun out and that time he had handcuffs on my hands and I couldnt get the door open. Do you remember what hes driving on Friday? Cindy I notice that you are visibly upset and have tears and crying. When Hansen drove up to Paulson and propositioned her, she agreed to get into his car. CINDY: Uh huh. FLOTHE: Two hundred dollars is a lot of money Be sure and look at all six. Daigle, the corrections official, said that as far as she knows Hansen never saw the film. How was the directing process with Scott Walker? Robert Hansens first encounter with Cindy Paulson seemed inauspicious. This is a very intense film. And he fuckin had a tan or an Army green tan coat or Army green And boots. FLOTHE: At this time, so I know what youre talking about, cause I have not been in the house, Cindy FLOTHE: Did you have conversation, then, with him on Friday? But when Cindy reached out to the police, they believed Hansen's story, which was again backed up by his powerful friends. 17-year-old Cindy Paulson ran away from Hansen in 1983 as he was trying to load her into his plane and "take her out to his cabin," presumably a euphemism for the vacant Alaskan wilderness where he gunned down his victims. Its nice because I can watch it from an outsiders perspective and be sucked into it, which is cool. CINDY: And then after I looked I recognized him. He used it to stab her in the back, he said. And he had cuffed one of my hands, and I was trying to get loose and he pulled out a gun. If youre very sensitive to that sort of thing (I know that much of my audience is ) then you may wish to skip this one. CINDY: I knew I was in trouble. She'd noticed women's clothes, toys, and dogs wandering around, according to. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. CINDY: And then up here to where I was starting to get it off. Hansen couldn't or wouldn't help identify her. FLOTHE: Like this? CINDY: They were a dark brown. He was also an avid hunter. And so I gave him my telephone number And he was going To be frank, honest, I was asking him for change for a cigarette machine. The woman, who was believed to in her late teens was found on April 25, 1984, near Horseshoe Lake. Your email address will not be published. And I said, Fine, no problem.. FLOTHE: And what color were his boots? For a man who had been a social outcast all of his life, it shouldve been an incredible feeling to finally be accepted; in his new town he opened his very own successful bakery with money obtained through an insurance scam, he and his new wife had a couple of kids, and Robert became a well respected member of society. Does he tell you anything at that point, once hes got the handcuffs on FLOTHE: Was there anything else unusual about the house? CINDY: Yeah. First, we hear about that meet up from Robert Hansens confession. Thats another character that I dove very deeply into. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/cindy_interview_mofo.mp3, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. This actually wasnt an uncommon thing for parents to do during this time period, plenty of us lefties in past generations were forced to conform, but apparently this deeply scarred this young man. The cause of death will be determined by the medical examiner but it appears he died of natural causes, she said. However, she was never identified and Hansen died last month aged 75, while serving a 461-year sentence in Alaska. CINDY: Yep. And do what he pleased with her. My left wrist, right there Brown and Caldwell's former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. FLOTHE: What did he ask you? How did you approach your portrayal of Cindy? Kidnapped: The True Story of Cindy Paulson, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. FLOTHE: How about the glasses? The remains of an unidentified victim of an Alaskan serial killer who hunted down his victims as if they were game have been exhumed in a bid to establish who she was. Glenn Flothe, AST. CINDY: Im positive. Cindy Paulson Interview with Sgt. How did talking to the real Cindy Paulson inform that process? Robert Christian Hansen (the Butcher Baker) and the Delphi Murde He joined the ADN in 2004. CINDY: Nope. (rustling sound as Flothe shows his gun to Cindy) Did it have that or was Hansens Truck & Datsun Close-up (copyright Leland E. Hale). Hudgens: Its interesting that actors put themselves in a place where they can feel so hurt and feel so much pain. Normally, people try avoiding that. We must step back and reflect to see new opportunities for growth. CINDY: Yep. The avid hunter would strip his victim naked (often in subzero temperatures) and simply set her free. Can you tell us how that all came about? And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. (Cindy Paulson), Cindy Paulson CINDY: Uh huh The website seems to belong to the author of the book which inspired the aforementioned Hollywood movie, his name is Leland E. Hale. FLOTHE: Did you get into his car, or did he just get out or what? What about Gimme Shelter which is completed? Police soon picked the killer up for questioning, but when it came down to it, a mild mannered baker with a rap sheet was still more believable in the early eighties than a half naked, handcuffed and barefooted teenaged sex worker. Hudgens: I wanted her to be a normal teenage girl. CINDY: OK. As you know, the only electronic I open is a crappy android. CINDY: Like a convertible (inaudible), 1978 Buick Century 4-Door Sedan (This photo is NOT Hansens Buick, but it is similar). And he suggested that we could go to his place. 10 Underrated Thrillers That Are Destined To Become Cult Classics, 10 Best Movies Trilogies Ranked From 'Spider-Man' to 'The Lord of the Rings', This Spielberg Movie Only Made a $1 Box Office Profit. (laughs) Its my monster of sorts. If she saw blood, well, that would also have made sense as her husband was a hunter. We all have the same needs. FLOTHE: Do you remember how he was dressed on Sunday? He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. "You could hear him screaming at his lawyers," Rothschild said. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. This is Installment Three of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. So, just the fact that I put myself in this situation, in this character, to go through these emotions and make myself feel all that I felt is an interesting thing psychology-wise. Hansen asked to speak with his attorneys and went out into another room. FLOTHE: Which photograph is that? Roberts father, an overbearing man who never did care to have a decent relationship with his son, expected young Robert to be busy at work in the familys bakery whenever he wasnt in school. With his death, the full extent of Hansen's deeds, including the true number of his victims, the location of their bodies and the identities of all the women he kidnapped, raped and sometimes hunted like wild game before murdering might never be known. Profiling is really an incredible science, its amazing how even the littlest details about a killer can be told by their crimes. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. Did he have a moustache, Cindy? A MAJOR PHILANTHROPIST. What was the most difficult scene for you to shoot and why? Hansen was convicted in 1984 after confessing to killing 17 women, mostly dancers and prostitutes, during a 12-year span in the 1970s and 80s. And hes about five six, weighs about 170 pounds. Did you know the street name? CINDY: I could say the time but it may not be the correct one. Still, he couldve taken a life before he was busted, who knows? It was very, very eerie and really tough, but John (Cusack) was great. So it was nice to kind of test my own mental and physical strength. Laurel Andrews was a reporter for the Anchorage Daily News, Alaska Dispatch News and Alaska Dispatch. Rothschild recounted watching Hansen transform into "the monster he was" the day prosecutors sat down with Hansen and laid out the evidence against him. He offered me $200 for a blowjob in the car, cause I wouldnt go to his place. Uh, FR: Would it have been during the time when your wife and children were out of. Hudgens: I thought it was pretty spot on. CINDY: No. CINDY: Um hmm. Paulson told Flothe in her interview, which is published in full on Leland Hale's website, the man who wrote Butcher, Baker: The True Account of an Alaskan Serial Killer: CINDY: He just said,. Your email address will not be published. John Paulson. FLOTHE: Would you recognize this metal seat if you saw it again, do you think? Glenn took what the FBI had said along with Cindys account of what Robert had done to her, and he obtained a search warrant for his suspects dwelling. 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He often found his victims among topless dancers and prostitutes in downtown Anchorage. * I would like to talk about Roberts wife, Darla, and their two children for a minute. Is this part of a deliberate strategy to develop further as an actress and put the High School 3 image behind? On the floor instead there was an airplane seat. Heres a link: https://www.patreon.com/Morbidnmacabre. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. CINDY: I talked to him and made an appointment to meet him and I didnt show up. The FBI had been spot on about everything. Then he had got my other hand cuffed, I dont know how he did it, it was just frightening, cause I didnt really I fought, but not a lot, cause I knew he would do something. No matter what her husband did, even after hed been arrested and jailed for rape, she remained by her husbands side. FLOTHE: Where were you going to meet him at Saturday? CINDY: Because when I drove past the house there was a sign that said Dead End. Kidnapped: Cindy Paulson, Part II July 18, 2017 Admin Leave a comment This is Installment Two of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Vanessa Hudgens: I was a little bit shaken up that this guy who was well respected in the neighborhood and everyone knew as the family man could have done such atrocious and heinous crimes. CINDY: No. Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. CINDY: Same. Thats why he did it. FLOTHE: You saw a bunch of money in his wallet? Investigators believe that before killing his victims, Robert would often take them to his cabin in the wilderness in his private jet. 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And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. *EDIT * Cindy did not escape from the plane, she hopped out of his car. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. And Ill give you one guess as to who fit the bill perfectly! Alaska serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed as many as 21 women, died Thursday at an Anchorage hospital. While she was in her element, developing regional client solutions with diversely talented teams, she realized that her clients and many colleagues did not know much about her personal life. FLOTHE: I hope not. CINDY: Yep. FLOTHE: He had an automatic garage door opener? Anchorage's jail is one of the state's only correctional facilities with a medical unit. "On this day we should only remember his many victims and all of their families, and my heart goes out to all of them," said Glenn Flothe, a retired Alaska state trooper who was instrumental in Hansen's 1984 capture. FLOTHE: OK. And hes driving the same car. The killer had been in declining health for the past year, the department said. Now, from reading your report apparently you had a pretty good description of the house that you gave the police. How fitting! The date on her grave marker is April 24, 1984, one day off the date the body was found. Mr Hoage said the woman was among cases of unidentified and missing people that were being reviewed by the center, with authorities receiving permission for the exhumation, the day before Hansen died. The Special Agent had known that this killer would be into collecting trophies from his victims, that he would have very little self worth, and that hed have a burning hatred for women you know, the usual type thing, but to pinpoint this killers stutter is truly astonishing! CINDY PAWLCYN Award-winning chef, cookbook author and founder of a dozen restaurants, Cindy Pawlcyn reveals a few of her secrets to starting a successful bus. CINDY: Hey, for a blowjob in the car, hell yeah. Kids in England had to wear masks at school because No10 'didn't want an argument' with Nicola Sturgeon - Health ministers knew there was no evidence to justify making kids abide by rule of 6 - but No10 'didn't Matt Hancock branded teaching unions 'absolute a**es' in leaked WhatsApp messages with then-education Holiday home owners in Scotland face new SNP tax hike under plans from front-runner to be new First Scotland should just self-identify as an independent country, one SNP member proposed. Interview with Cindy Morgan DontHateTheGeek 2.2K views 10 years ago Whiplash Final Scene - Andrew Neyman's Performance Awais Irfan 14M views 7 years ago Ned Lightner 52K views 9 years ago The. In the early morning of June 13th 1983, (months before the other bodies were found) Cindy Paulson appeared on the side of the road. FLOTHE: Did he point the gun at you at any time? Robert had been in the habit of keeping a souvenir from most of his hunting sessions, whether it be wild game or women. Hansen would kidnap the women at gunpoint, tie them up, then fly to remote areas to kill them. And he contacts you. CINDY: It was about maybe four in the morning, three-thirty in the morning. Flothe (Sep 27, 1983) Cindy Paulson talks about Robert Hansen CINDY: (Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. Hudgens: I think that theyre doing one. They pushed me every day to get reactions out of me on the camera that I wouldnt have done if it wasnt for them taking me to those places. CINDY: Yes, directly. CINDY: Like a new Seville. REVEALED: Roald Dahl books were neutered by woke consultants aged eight to 30 - led by 'non-binary, asexual, After one school says it is families' responsibility to police their children's social media spats, Jenni or debate this issue live on our message boards. Can you tell me a little about your character and the status of that project? With a cut in the back. As soon as he was of age Robert joined the Army reserves and moved to another town where he found himself a wife, but he was still treated badly. For the life of me, i cant see any reason why the state of Alaska, or anyone would keep robert Hansen alive after his conviction Why would you keep a monster like this alive and have the peoples tax money feed such an animal for years.. Cant wrap my head around it.. Alaska does not have the death penalty and has never had it (since Statehood). I was kinda trippin I really thought (inaudible) So he felt he should go and get the girl and take her over to his house. FLOTHE: OK. or debate this issue live on our message boards. And who showed you those pictures? A one-stop-shop for all things video games. Cindy later recounted that Robert had offered her $200 bucks for oral sex, and that hed pulled a gun on her just as soon as she stepped inside his vehicle; the teen was driven back to Roberts home where she was chained to a beam by her throat, raped, and tortured for several hours. Do you know your way around town well, or why did you happen to remember so well where it was at? Darla had known that shed married a dedicated hunter, so when Robert had taken time away from the family, it was easy to explain away. My wife and family were down in Arkansas visiting her folks places and, um, I had met her the first time up town. I said, fine, we can do it in the car. CINDY: Some times they were. FLOTHE: Six in the evening? (pause) FLOTHE: On the inside of your left wrist. He was afraid of running into friends, relatives or acquaintances of people who knew his many victims. CINDY: Uh huh. And it may not even be in there. STEPHEN Don't just stick to the Malbec! Were able to have honest and trusting conversations about how to make BC, and hopefully the industry, a place We must take small steps to make a positive change in the workplace and industry and, right now, its We work to create a more inclusive space because everyone deserves to live and embrace their truths. Im sorry I dont remember the right dates and so forth. It must also be mentioned that she and the children were constantly insulted and belittled by Robert, and it wouldnt be surprising to learn that he was physically abusive; there may have been some trauma bonding there as well. A mousy, seemingly easy-natured family man, Hansen admitted to killing 17 woman and raping another 30 over a dozen years in the 1970s and 1980s. The identity of one of his victims, who was found near Horseshoe lake north of Anchorage has never been established and now her remains are being exhumed. When his truck became stuck in the mud, the woman tried to run. Glenn had been involved in the investigation of three murdered women; these victims had obviously been connected, they had all been discovered at least partially nude, theyd been shot with the same type of firearm, and buried in a shallow grave. Its going to have to be a little bit vague on that. Order my latest book, What Happened In Craig, HERE and HERE, true crime on Epicenter Press about Alaskas Worst Unsolved Mass Murder. Identifying and finding Hansens weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the Butcher, Baker. [Installment Two]. Your email address will not be published. The Butcher Baker passed away of natural causes in August of 2014, he lived to be 75 years old. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. Episode 7: The Frozen Ground. 10,285 views Aug 26, 2013 In an up close interview, former Disney sweetheart Vanessa Hudgens shares her admiration towards serial killer Robert Hansen's surviving victim Cindy Paulson .more. Dr. Cindy Paulson, senior vice president and Brown and Caldwell's Chief Technical Officer, is responsible for advancing the company's technical strategy from innovation to talent development and quality delivery. FLOTHE: Would you draw me a diagram of the house and Ill turn the tape off just for a minute while youre doing that. By the time hed caught up, Cindy had flagged down a passing motorist; this good samaritan drove the teen to a nearby hotel room, and he promptly notified the Alaskan police. CINDY: Uh huh. 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