The Lord Ruler is pierced through the chest with a spear, basically a long spike, then uses that spear to stab Kelsier. A lawman through and through, Wax is now semi-retired as High Lord of his House. I have to explain myself like, seventeen times. In this novella covering the events of the first Mistborn trilogy, Kelsier is trapped in the Well of Ascension following his death. Thus he decides to go along with him out of curiosity. Community Software by Invision Power Services, Inc. On 8/3/2018 at 9:16 PM, TheManKnownAsHoid said: On 8/2/2018 at 3:22 PM, TheManKnownAsHoid said. Kelsier is a former thief from the capital city of Luthadel. Kelsier had lots of plans and backup plans. If it did, the Koloss who died wouldn't have reverted to Humans when Kelsier saw them die. Some of the Survivor's less pleasant traits include his ruthlessness and prejudice. MellowKween 21 days ago Hmm well like I said, he's never really gone. It's not a sad death. [55], After Sazed's Ascension and Spook's rise to political power, Kelsier began to speak with Spook about finding a way to bring himself back to the Physical Realm. [22][23] Perhaps as a result of his egotism and arrogance, several of his plans involve setting himself up as a powerful, mysterious, or even divine figure. He is credited as the first to ever escape the death camp, and from henceforth he was titled the Survivor of Hathsin. [40] He continued training Vin and was surprised by her quick progress. Back at the city gates Kelsier introduced Vin to Sazed. People tell me I can be downright frustrating! In no way was it suggested that TLR was the one gaining the Hemalurgic power. Even with the Eleventh Metal, Kelsier proved no match for the emperor and was quickly killed by a spear through the heart. , When several skaa from the rebellion were about to be executed, Kelsier attempts to save them. Mistborn Wiki is a FANDOM Books Community. On its relevancy, just because it has spawned a discussion does not make it relevant to the present and futureCosmere. Wayne once had a thing for her, but gave up on it after realizing that she has a girlfriend. Does that make any sense? After removing her second spike and adding one of Trellium, she went mad and began working with the Set, and was defeated. The Coppermind has spoilers for all of Brandon's published works, now including The Lost Metal and Tress of the Emerald Sea (Secret Project 1). After being betrayed by his wife Mare on a job stealing from the Lord Ruler, Kelsier is sent to the Pits of Hathsin to mine atium geodes, one of the most sought-after Allomantic metals. You are filling this thread with posts that are not needed and not wanted. His healing heals his spiritweb, so it's theoretically possible to use him as an infinite source of spikes.. Of course, the WoB about it just says that spiking Hoid would work very weirdly. Kelsier dies. Ranette: Waxs gunsmith and a Lurcher (iron-pulling). [54] Secretly, however, he knew that Ruin would send Marsh to intercept the message, and was hoping that reading the message would give Marsh the information he needed to remove Vin's earring, which was also a Hemalurgic spike that was keeping her from taking up Preservation's power. In conjunction with Southern Scadrian technology, ettmetal can reproduce Allomantic or Feruchemical powers within its vicinity. Steris Harms Ladrian: Waxs wife and Marasis half-sister. Vin didn't trust him but agreed in order to learn how to use Allomancy. Information about books that have not yet been released, like the other secret novels releasing in 2023 and Stormlight 5, is allowed only on meta-pages for the books themselves. Even if he had, Kelsier died after being stabbed by the spear, but a hemalurgic spike would not kill: vital organs actually move to accommodatethe spike and keep the subject alive. [2] Kelsier later reveals in his letter to Vin that he had intended to use the Eleventh Metal to destroy the Lord Ruler but could not discover how to use it in his fight. (Aside from the possibility of the spear no longer being a symbol). Until Kelsier, a brilliant half-Skaa thief and natural leader, finds in himself the powers of a Mistborn, and turns his talents to the ultimate caper, with the Lord Ruler himself as the mark. This thread only relatesto Mistborn, and should probably be moved to the mistborn forum,instead of the Cosmere forum, to avoid spoilers. Or does Sanderson have yet more secrets to reveal? He justifies his behavior as faithfulness to the Survivor of Hathsin, since Kelsier himself had been known to express outright hatred for the nobility. Before leaving them, he created the Bands of Mourning, a collection of unsealed metalminds forged together and containing all kinds of attributes in extremely large quantities. He has a spike through his eye at the end of BoM. Foopers. When Lord Tresting attempted to rape a skaa girl, Kelsier saved her, killing Tresting and all his servants and soldiers in the process. At the end of the book, Waxillium Ladrian is given a feruchemic coin by Hoid which stores the memory of a man with one eye and one hemalurgic spike, with arms covered in scars. Aside from the Survivorists, there was also a whole civilization of people that worshiped Kelsier far to to the south of Elendel, calling him the Sovereign. He feels guilty for abandoning her but does his best to help her. Kelsier did get metal as a Cognitive Shadow in the form of the bolt from Nazh and Khriss' chair. It gains its Hemalurgic charge as soon as it touches moving blood. For more details, see our spoiler policy. If anything, I feel like Ruin would have tried to make the Lord Ruler take the bracers off. Kelsier held Preservation for a short time but was bad at using it because he was a Cognitive Shadow at the time and did not match well with Preservation's Intent. He hid the artifact away somewhere in the north and then disappeared. [12] He always smiles and projects an excited and positive attitude, which is particularly unusual in the skaa underground. All Im saying is that theres no way to definitively know whether or not the metal heads were still inside him. [30] He is quite proficient at pewter dragging and has enough practice to maintain it for hours and still maintain a fair amount of clarity afterwards. No, Kelsier was not fond of Marsh. Harmony(fka Sazed): Harmony holds the shards of Ruin AND Preservation, and as such is (one of the) god(s) of Scadrial. When Kelsier's father discovered the truth of their parentage, he had their mother executed and attempted to do the same to the brothers, who fled. In fact, Im far more than just a mild annoyance. And he didnt have metals as a cognitive shadow, so we have no way of knowing. He was born to a noble and a skaa mother, a fact that would have her killed due to the illegitimacy of it. After Holding and releasing the Shard of Preservation, Kelsier became a Sliver. Marsh is aware of Kelsiers current activities as a Cognitive Shadow. (The Mistborn Saga #1) by Brandon Sanderson (Goodreads Author) 4. However, this apparition of Kelsier is eventually revealed to be Ruin in disguise. [50] He stayed with her for a while after that but ultimately had to leave. Wax and his friends became embroiled in this incident in opposition to the Set, and Wax was almost killed in an encounter with them. B. from what I do understand, I don't see why it is relevant, and generally, when something is irrelevant it is wrong simply because it is simply adding more complexity to the books (I think we all know the Cosmere has plenty), and is pointless. Sazed, after becoming God, grants Spook the power of a Mistborn and heals him of his ultra-enhanced sense (an effect of continuously flaring tin for extended periods of time). Gemmel is Kelsier's mentor in the allomantic arts, meeting each other after Kelsier escaped from his captivity in Hathsin. [24] This results in the skaa considering him a god, leading to the founding of the Church of the Survivor, which refers to Kelsier as "Lord of the Mists". He and Steris are married. It is presumed that this is the Sovereign of the Southerners, who saved their people, declared himself ruler, and reorganized the social hierarchy. Kelsier would understand, but still disapprove of. One of Kelsier's defining characteristics is his infallible optimism, even in the face of disastrous situations. If you dont have time for a reread of the series before diving into the new book and need a refresher course so you can go in with your metalminds clear, were happy to help remind you of whos who, whats what, and all those other wondrous Ws! That is like arguing with air. If you dont like this theory, move on. [78][34] At the time of meeting, he saw Kelsier as a wild card that he didn't want to deal with. That would have advanced his plans quite nicely. [11] He usually wears a nobleman's suit (a colored vest with dark trousers and a coat), and during the night he wears his mistcloak. He has an imposing presence and is a natural leader, easily taking charge and swaying even the downtrodden skaa of Luthadel into joining the rebellion with his charming personality. To withdraw your consent, see Your Choices. Mistborn was the first Brandon Sanderson book I read, and Kelsier's death shocked me. Don't make me come over there and slap you around again. Im going to proceed with this article under the assumption that youve read it, so if you havent, there will be some MAJOR spoilers. He congregated a mass of approximately six thousand skaa men to become soldiers in roughly four months and sent them all to Yeden. [45] They question him on Preservation's appearance after learning he has spoken directly with the Shard, and then continue their discussion onto other topics. I represent that one thing you've never been able to kill, no matter how hard you try. Kelsier is deified and continues to be venerated more and more by the skaa as the Church of the Survivor gains popularity. , Marsh is Kelsiers older brother. Kelsier often kills nobility and the skaa who serve them with absolutely no qualms. TheManKnownAsHoid, August 2, 2018. TenSoon learned the location of his bones from OreSeur, and used them to convince the people of Luthadel to hide in the caverns after King Penrod was corrupted by Ruin.[41]. As of Mistborn Era 2, he may be a feruchemist and he has not gained access to allomancy since his death. Gemmel frequently put Kelsier into life and death situations in order to push him to learn how to use his powers. His late wife Mare collected pre-Ascension memorabilia, and he keeps one piece, a drawing of a flower,[7] to inspire his crew. The vision, seen from Kelsier's point of view, showed that his spiked right eye viewed the world through Allomantic lines, similar to Steel Inquisitors, while his left eye saw things normally.[34]. He is stern and intense, but always smiling; anoth er act of rebellion against the Lord Ruler's oppression. When Kelsier became a Mistborn and returned to Luthadel, he first sought out Dockson and recruited him for his plan. Except if you remove the spike, you love the alteration because the Identity is not matched. The Lord Ruler is pierced through the chest with a spear, basically a long spike, then uses that spear to stab Kelsier. He also searched far and wide for possible ways to defeat the Lord Ruler, and managed to find an ingot of the fabled Eleventh Metal (he claimed he had found it in the west, which is considered to be a lie. So, Im kind of with Ishar a little bit. [62], You can say what you wish, but you don't own me. Kelsier later gave this drawing to Vin. [33] As a result, he has both regular vision and the steelsight that Inquisitors used, allowing him to see via both normal light and trace metals. The new skin is based on Kelsier, a central character of the series. This severely angered Kelsier and crushed morale within his crew, making them feel that they wouldn't be needed now that the army had been slaughtered. Luthadel [ edit] Dockson met his death with a sword in hand during the Battle of Luthadel. Though he is killed by the Lord Ruler, he watches over Vin as a Cognitive Shadow. Taken in congruence with the events of Secret History, this man appears to be Kelsier. But spiking modifies the spirit web, which is the same whether your a cognitive shadow or not,and so it could have provided him benefits. He forced the rest of the crew to leave, only leaving Vin. Like a way to copy that little bit of spiritweb, so the spike can be removed or, god forbid, reused. And, if you can, dont get all rage monster with ma boy Ishar. His near invincibility as a Mistborn warrior fuels his reckless nature. If you enjoy queer protagonists, snarky humor, and dont mind some salty language, check out book 1. At some point after his revival, he also became a prominent figure on Roshar known as Thaidakar, though he is still physically stuck on Scadrial.[1]. [32] He also had Codenames send messages to Steris and the Ghostblood agents in the Elendel Basin, telling them to prepare for an evacuation of Elendel. See the original version. He told Suit that the Set had decided that allowing civilization on Scadrial to continue was too dangerous and that they decided to remove life on this sphere instead. The creature then activated an explosive device, apparently killing Suit. It is a dystopian fantasy world in which magic users gain powers by swallowing. Then, in Shadows of Self, Paalm was using a spike supplied by Trell to gain Allomantic and Feruchemical abilities, as well as to remain invisible to Harmony. Kelsier had traveled there several years after the Catacendre, inhabiting a physical body that was spiked in the right eye, and found the Southern Scadrians slowly dying of an unexplained coldness. Kelsier fell in love with a Tineye crewmember of Dockson's retinue named Mare, whom he later married. "[3] Kelsier is Iyatil's master. And the whole point of the Cosmere Discussion forumis to discuss irrelevant theories and minutiae about the Cosmere. Will we learn more about him in The Lost Metal? As long as it provides something to think about and consider, it is worth posting. If youre looking to learn even more, I highly recommend that you check it outthere are also chapter-by-chapter recaps of the books if youd like to do a more thorough deep dive into the Mistborn series! [citation needed], To put the plan in motion, Kelsier first targeted Keep Venture, as House Venture was the currently most powerful house in Luthadel and an attack on it would have the greatest impact. All Im saying is that whether or not TLR could have been hemalurgically spiked depends entirely upon whether or not the rebels stabbing him with spears only stabbed hard enough to just barely get the metal heads in, which would technically allow for hemalurgical side effects, or if the rebels stabbed him with enough force that the spear head went ALL THE WAY THROUGH HIM and stuck out the other side of his body, leaving him with only the wooden haft still inside of him and the metal heads not touching his insides. Kelsier killed eight Hazekillers, stole a bag of atium, and made sure that it became known that a Mistborn had attacked a Great House, something forbidden by an unspoken agreement between the houses. He finds Vin and Ham near the steps of Keep Venture and also learned that Dockson had died in the Battle of Luthadel. We do it because we want to. Dick was so focused on the rhythm of movement and moving toward the name, he almost missed the quiet sound of a cloak fluttering behind him. [3] He considers him to be very dangerous. Thus was born a sense of resentment for the nobility in both children, which resulted in Marsh becoming the leader of the Skaa Rebellion and Kelsier became a crewleader for a gang of Misting thieves, stealing from the noble families. In the meantime, keep an eye out for a non-spoiler review of The Lost Metal coming up next week. As a Cognitive Shadow tied to Scadrial, it is difficult for him to travel to other planets via Shadesmar. A women by the codename of Codenames Are Stupid, opens communication with the leader of the Ghostbloods by the means of a seon, which shows Kelsier on an airship travelling to Elendel. Itd be interesting if he actually HAD been spiked by the spears. They discover that theres a murderer on the looseand, even worse, Harmony contacts Wax directly to inform him that this murderer is a rogue kandra named Bleeder/Paalm whos gone mad. While there he meets Ati and Hoid, as well as regularly talking with Leras, whom he believes to be God. [32], Born to a noble father and skaa mother,[35] his mother kept both Kelsier and Marsh alive by pretending that she was noble to their father so that their children would be considered merely illegitimate noblemen instead of half-breeds; however, their father eventually found out. On the battlefield, Kaladin would be more likely to win. Sure, maybe it would be active for a split second when touching blood or whatever like you said,but as soon as the head passes out of his body on the other side, it wouldnt affect him anymore. Despite her supposed betrayal, Kelsier never stopped loving her. While he is incapable of leaving Scadrial in person, he uses an "avatar" to visit the Ghostbloods on Roshar. Kelsier is the leader and presumed founder of the organization, which Mraize calls "the most powerful organization in all the cosmere. While there, other agents decide to report to Kelsier about the Set's imminent launch of a disastrous rocket at Elendel. [22], Kelsier has an unknown Seon which he uses to commmunicate with his Ghostbloods on Scadrial. Now we are two Books deep into the Second Era and maybe i need to re-read them with more cosmere awareness but i cant remember any hints of a Cognitiv/Cosmereaware Kelsier . [43], He and Gavilar were working against each other to an unknown extent. The Lord Ruler was just too powerful and him trying to run would've destroyed any of the rebellion he was trying to build. Why would it have to be relevant to the current or future cosmere? Most of the information in this article has been culled from The Coppermind, the definitive Sanderson knowledge base on the internet. But spiking modifies the spirit web, which is the same whether your a cognitive shadow or not,and so it could have provided him benefits. TLR was being spiked by the rebels and then into Kelsier. Even if it weren't a viable metal, as a Mistborn he would have been able to burn it, and he wasn't able to sense it at all. Of course, it was nothing compared to The Hero of the Ages. Mare joined him there a few months later. It is used to fuel Southern Scadrian Allomantic technology, including their airships, which run via Steelpushing. Together with his wife Mare, he led daring heists and gained great renown. From the skaa in Keep Shezler he heard rumors of the Eleventh metal. Kelsier is a half-skaa Mistborn from Scadrial. A bit obsessive, a bit anxious, and a whole lot amazing, Steris uses her neurodivergencies to her (and Waxs) advantage by plotting out every eventuality and creating detailed plans to deal with any situation. the original post says a lot: Are you asking if the rebels were influencedby Ruin? Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the. Immediately after his death, Kelsier arrived in the Cognitive Realm. Though Vin initially is wary and suspicious of him, she eventually learns to trust him, and he becomes somewhat of a father figure to her. The Church of the Survivor, or Survivorism, is possibly the most organized of Scadrial's religions in this period, as well as being the clear favorite among the social elite and downtrodden alike. [76], I don't want to be responsible for something happening to you, Vin. Might as well use that talent for the cause of good eh? Although he had only come into his powers three years before the beginning of Mistborn: The Final Empire, Kelsier repeatedly demonstrates a level of skill and finesse greater than that of most other Mistborn. Donald Mustard, de facto head of Fortnite, is real life friends with Brandon Sanderson, and approached him about getting characters from his books into the game. Willshaper is high on the list as well. To view an earlier version of the wiki without spoilers for a book, go to the Time Machine! This was changed by Vin who fell in love with Elend Venture. Killing Kelsier in a specific way wouldnt have changed or accomplished anything that he would care about. Even if he had said something rude, its a theory. My bad. Kelsier recruited the underworld's elite, the smartest and most trustworthy allomancers, each of whom shares one of his many powers, and all of whom relish a high . Under the Citizen's rule, all noblemen and even skaa of noble ancestry were to be executed, and any sort of luxury is declared illegal. Kelsier also is quite adept at pewter-dragging, as he is capable of running long distances and experiencing only minor fatigue afterwards. Sure, maybe it would be active for a split second when touching blood or whatever like you said,but as soon as the head passes out of his body on the other side, it wouldnt affect him anymore. Which is kind of how Id always imagined it. [62] He has also worked together with Khriss. He hates injustice and takes this hatred to the extreme, which originally resulted in him being unable to see good in any of the nobility. But strangely, he still loved him. The first glimpse we had of Trells influence was at the end of Alloy of Law in the form ofMiles Hundredlives dying proclamation: You are fools! Id make a world where owers returned, a world with green plants, a world where no soot fell from the sky. Kelsier was central to it all. They went to the hideout themselves just in time to save Vin from Camon. [34] This spike pins his soul to his bones. [70], Soon afterwards, Wax accessed a coppermind contained in a coin-like Southern Scadrian medallion that Hoid had given him and saw a vision of what appeared to be Kelsier's memory of discovering the Southern Scadrians hundreds of years prior. Proceed with caution if you have not read this book. The reason he would fit well as an Edgedancer is mainly because of what he picked up from Mare regarding restoring the world to the time of flowers and greenery. As such, I wont be delving into every plot and character nuanceonly the ones which are likely to be relevant toThe Lost Metal. At the end of TheBands of Mourning, we learn that aside from the Survivorists, there is also a whole civilization of people far to the south of Elendel that worships Kelsier, calling him the Sovereign. Their relationship was the sort to where Gavilar was quick to believe that he was the one who ordered his murder. I represent that one thing you've never been able to kill, no matter how hard you try. Kelsier has also been keeping himself busy by interfering with Roshar (the world in which The Stormlight Archive is set). What are you actually theorizing. Epic previously teased the Mistborn crossover by tweeting out a quote . Kelsier and his brother Marsh were the sons of a nobleman father and a skaa mother. Yet, his death isn't truly that sad to me. [37], Ah, but being an annoyance is something that I am very good at. He then "Snapped", becoming a Mistborn. All I want is for you to clarify your theory. As you can see, Kelsiers been a busy, busy boy. The two of them have a strained relationship. Please note that there are also some spoilers in here for The Stormlight Archive. People have theorized similar about Hoid. He met with Yeden the leader of the skaa rebellion and made Yeden hire him to bring down the Final Empire. Kelsier (aka The Survivor): Kelsier was the leader of the group of thieves who went after the Lord Ruler in the original trilogy, and was the person who recruited Vin. He always keeps a smile on his face, because that is the one thing the Lord Ruler can't take from him. In The Final Empire it can be argued that Vin represents the reader of the book as she is constantly in awe and has a great amount of respect for Kelsier.The reader is able to learn about the world, the magic and the other characters through the eyes of Vin, and because of this, we admire Kelsier, holding him up to almost a supernatural standard. Kelsier discovered that Mare had given him her only geode, and was forced to watch Mare being beaten to death by the guards. It depends on whether or not the head of the spear was in him, or poking out the other side without touching him. "Now, let's go jump that wall."Based on Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn novels, where Kelsier first teaches Vin about Allomancy.The boards are also available on. At the beginning of the novella, Kelsier is killed by the Lord Ruler, but refuses to pass on to the Beyond, and instead becomes trapped in the Cognitive Realm, between the Physical and Spiritual realm. One day, the men of gold and red, bearers of the final metal, will come to you. However, Kelsier is then confronted by the Lord Ruler, who backhands him across the face and then stabs him in the chest with a spear, killing him. Marasi previously studied law and had a bit of a crush on Wax, but shes since moved on. Here is where Vin comes in. Wayne is also a twinborn; his skills are Slider (creating speed bubbles) and Bloodmaker (he can store health in his metalminds in order to help facilitate healing). First released in 2006, Mistborn currently emcompasses six books, the most recent one having been released in 2016. Telsin Ladrian (aka Lady Sequence): Waxs estranged sister, and a high-ranking member of the Seteven higher than Mister Suit. I am not trying to shut this theory down as you would say, I am trying to understand the theory, because as you said, I want to discuss it,and your post telling people who dont understand what you are saying because you are so unclear are even more uneccesary, aggressive, and frankly very rude. Even if he was though, Im kind of confused at why you think Ruin would want TLR to kill Kelsier instead of Ruin trying to have TLR kill himself somehow. While difficult, it is possible to obtain atium and lerasium from ettmetal, but not through mechanical means. He strongly disapproves of the way Kelsier flippantly kills noblemen and those who serve them without a second thought. He didnt say anything rude. Also, you talked about, as I mentioned, how you want to discuss this theory. 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